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		<title>My 2010 Hall of Fame Ballot</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the results of the 2010 Hall of Fame voting to be announced next week, I figured I&#8217;d try to get a discussion going here by posting my fictional ballot: Yes: Bert Blyleven, Tim Raines, Roberto Alomar, Barry Larkin, Mark McGwire, Alan Trammell, Edgar Martinez Close, but no: Fred McGriff, Dale Murphy, Andre Dawson, Lee [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style" addthis:url='http://www.nerdbaseball.com/2009/12/my-2010-hall-of-fame-ballot/' addthis:title='My 2010 Hall of Fame Ballot' ><a class="addthis_button_facebook"></a><a class="addthis_button_twitter"></a><a class="addthis_button_email"></a><a class="addthis_button_google_plusone"></a><a class="addthis_button_compact"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the results of the 2010 Hall of Fame voting to be announced next week, I figured I&#8217;d try to get a discussion going here by posting my fictional ballot:</p>
<p><strong>Yes</strong>: Bert Blyleven, Tim Raines, Roberto Alomar, Barry Larkin, Mark McGwire, Alan Trammell, Edgar Martinez</p>
<p><strong>Close, but no</strong>: Fred McGriff, Dale Murphy, Andre Dawson, Lee Smith</p>
<p><strong>Not as close as you&#8217;d think</strong>: Jack Morris, Don Mattingly, Dave Parker</p>
<p><strong>Closer than you&#8217;d think</strong>: Ellis Burks, Andres Galarraga</p>
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		<title>Jim Rice Still Carrying Torch for &#8220;Good Old Days&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rob Neyer already raked Jim Rice over the coals for this, but I don&#8217;t think adding a few comments of my own would be piling on. As reported by the Associated Press, Jim Rice, as part of a promotion for Allstate Insurance Co. (Full Disclosure Alert: they currently insure my car), recently spoke to a [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style" addthis:url='http://www.nerdbaseball.com/2009/08/jim-rice-still-carrying-torch-for-good-old-days/' addthis:title='Jim Rice Still Carrying Torch for &#8220;Good Old Days&#8221;' ><a class="addthis_button_facebook"></a><a class="addthis_button_twitter"></a><a class="addthis_button_email"></a><a class="addthis_button_google_plusone"></a><a class="addthis_button_compact"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob Neyer already <a href="http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sweetspot/0-4-200/Jim-Rice-tells-it-like-it-was-n-t-.html" target="_blank">raked Jim Rice over the coals </a>for this, but I don&#8217;t think adding a few comments of my own would be piling on. <a href="http://www.lohud.com/article/20090821/SPORTS01/90821028" target="_blank">As reported by the Associated Press</a>, Jim Rice, as part of a promotion for Allstate Insurance Co. (Full Disclosure Alert: they currently insure my car), recently spoke to a group of Little Leaguers in Williamsport, Pa. Here are some excerpts from the story:</p>
<blockquote><p>“You see a Manny Ramirez, you see an A-Rod (Alex Rodriguez), you see (Derek) Jeter &#8230; Guys that I played against and with, these guys you’re talking about cannot compare,” Rice said to Little Leaguers gathered in the cafeteria.</p></blockquote>
<p>Stay classy, Jim. Somehow you got into the Hall of Fame and, just a few weeks later, you feel the need to crap all over today&#8217;s stars. What an ambassador for the game.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s also funny, Jim, is that you <em>can</em> compare the players from your era with those from the modern era. There are statistics for that. I won&#8217;t discuss Manny Ramirez or A-Rod because of the steroid issue (and it&#8217;s clear that Rice has adopted a holier-than-thou attitude on that subject), so let&#8217;s focus on Derek Jeter. I&#8217;d love to hear from Rice regarding which shortstops from his era were better hitters than Jeter. I don&#8217;t think Rice played with Arky Vaughan or Honus Wagner, so he probably won&#8217;t be able to come up with any.</p>
<blockquote><p>“We didn’t have the baggy uniforms. We didn’t have the dreadlocks,” Rice said. “It was a clean game, and now they’re setting a bad example for the young guys.”</p>
<p>Asked later at a news conference to list current players worthy of the Hall, Rice suggested Seattle Mariner outfielders Ichiro Suzuki and Ken Griffey, Jr., and Chicago White Sox slugger Jim Thome.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really? That&#8217;s the best list that he could come up with? I agree that all three belong in the Hall of Fame, but aren&#8217;t there a few really obvious candidates out there? Randy Johnson, John Smoltz, Pedro Martinez, Mariano Rivera, Albert Pujols, Ivan Rodriguez, to name a few.</p>
<blockquote><p>He said he believes current Hall of Famers who did not cheat don’t want players who took performance-enhancing drugs to join them in the Hall.</p>
<p>Flexing the muscles in his right arm, Rice said, “That’s all the steroids you need. &#8230; It’s called God-given talent.”</p></blockquote>
<p>What a piece of work. I guess Rice is feeling a little cocky due to his recent HOF election, which is still a mystery to me. I know that there is a lot of disagreement on this, but, in my opinion, Rice is not a HOF caliber player. He was a very good player, but not worthy of Cooperstown. Things are going to get awkward over the next few years when the baseball writers realize they elected Rice, but don&#8217;t want to elect Fred McGriff or Moises Alou. I guess McGriff and Alou weren&#8217;t as &#8220;feared&#8221; as Rice.</p>
<p>The last sentence of the article sheds some light on the interest level in Rice&#8217;s perspective. It reads like a little bit of an eff you from the AP writer:</p>
<blockquote><p>He got a standing ovation from players and coaches, though some of the 11- to 13-year-old players were yawning or had their heads in their arms on the table about 15 minutes into the talk.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds like your speech was a real showstopper, Jim. If it were Manny, A-Rod, or Jeter doing the talking, I doubt any of the Little Leaguers would have been daydreaming.</p>
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